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Mark McCall, Rob Baxter, Dai Young, Matt O'Connor and Mick Cleary
Mark McCall, Rob Baxter, Dai Young, Matt O'Connor and Mick Cleary Credit: GETTY IMAGES

Mick Cleary Welcome Matt O’Connor, a newcomer to the table. We’ve had a turbulent 12 months on the coaching front, with Mike Ford and Richard Cockerill sacked along with Andy Robinson at Bristol and, indeed, Aaron Mauger also at Leicester. Dai, has it got worse? Is the ‘Hire ‘em and fire ‘em’ mentality of football coming in to rugby?

Dai Young It’s not at football levels - yet. We’d all like to think people at our clubs would have more sense and not be knee-jerk. Success, though, can be measured in different ways. When I came to Wasps (2011), staying up was a bloomin’ success. So it is not necessarily about winning things but it is about progress, about moving forward.

MC Matt, early days of course, but do you sense anything different?

Matt O'Connor The investment is higher, it is resourced more so there is probably more impatience that goes with that.

Mark McCall, Dai Young, Matt O'Connor and Rob Baxter Credit: GETTY IMAGES

MC Rob, boy and man at Exeter, are they...

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